Comments on Evil Slutopia: 10 Things You Might Not Know About Gardasil

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm 24 and I was ...

2010-02-18T15:58:25.061-05:00

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm 24 and I was discussing getting this vaccine with my boyfriend last night. While we've both been bitten by the conspiracy theory bug, I couldn't help but feel like I should go ahead and get the shots. All of the hype alongside my mother's and friend's advice had me convinced that if I decided against it, there would be an apocalyptic death awaiting me. Thank you for giving me such a comprehensive jumping off point for my research!! You da best.

I am 24 next month i'll be 25. I went in for my ye...

2010-01-23T20:35:47.283-05:00

I am 24 next month i'll be 25. I went in for my yearly pap a week ago. My "new" doctor started talking to me about the Gardasil vaccine. Usually I do research before going proceeding with anything medical. But she seemed so nice and I just got the shot. Well she said I would feel dizzy after and I did. But she didn't tell me it'd last all week and that I'd feel sick to my stomach have diarrhea and feel depressed. I am a normally healthy person. Ever since I got this shot I have NOT been myself. I will not be receiving the second shot. I am concerned about the long term effects the my doctor failed to discuss with me. As a matter a fact she said nothing to me about the side effects only that I would feel dizzy and might have a slight fever. I feel like I cant trust any physician after this. Please do not put yourselves or your daughters through this. If I could go back I'd do the research first and say NO!!

I'll just say this, I'm 24 and contracted HPV back...

2009-10-07T10:33:57.596-04:00

I'll just say this, I'm 24 and contracted HPV back when I was 16. My doctor still recommended getting this vaccine so I did. I've had nothing but health problems since! The day I recieved my first shot I had what the doctor considers a panic attack and I've had severe anxiety since. I've had to studies done on me but I would say it's best described as a neurological thing as I have never had any kind of anxiety my entire life until that day. Needless to say, I refused to get my last dose. My daughters will not recieve this vaccine as long as I can help it!

I hope Chris up there falls into a black hole. "...

2009-09-08T15:05:07.180-04:00

I hope Chris up there falls into a black hole.

"The ads for this vaccine are incredible. They try and make it seem like nothing will happen to you as long as you take the shot. As some one commented earlier, the vaccine only work some of the time(70%) on only 4 out of the hundreds of known strands. Does this seem like adequate protection to you?"

That's some fanatastic logic. By these standards, since condoms aren't always effective I should just forego them all together.

"Also the fact that these ads do not promote safe sex or abstinence as a viable alternative. Even if you take this drug you can still attract all the other terrible and harmful viruses and infections. The vaccine seems to be presented as a free ticket from infection. The fact of the matter is you can't have full protection from a vaccine. People need to learn to either use a freakin condom or don't have sex. How hard is that, really? People just dont want to take care of themselves and take the responsibility for their actions."

Vaccines aren't drugs. -1 point. Aside from which, you can tell people not to have sex until you're blue in the face and it won't guarantee that will listen. People make bad decisions all the time, but fact is, no man is an island, and someone's bad decision can have a ripple effect. -1 point.

"If you look into most vaccines they are just a big joke. Do you remember the MMR shots we were mandated to take when we were growing up? Do any of you know anything about the diseases related to these shots? Measles, Mumps and Rubella are illness's that are not fatal and considered childhood diseases."

During 1999–2004, campaigns lead by WHO and UNICEF led to improvements in measles vaccination coverage that averted an estimated 1.4 million measles deaths worldwide. Aside from which, are you aware of something called Congenital rubella syndrome? Between 1964 and 1965, 20,000 children were born with CRS. CRS can cause deafness, blindness, cardiac problems, and developmental delays, among other things. Not fatal, you were saying?

"Also, another thing most people don't know that Often times vaccines contain Mercury to help preserve the vaccine."

As of March of 2000, thimerosal-free vaccines are easily available. And anyway, if Mercury is something to be avoided at all costs, no matter how small the dose, I hope you don't plan to eat fish any time soon.

Thank you for having this information available to...

2009-07-11T02:42:26.058-04:00

Thank you for having this information available to me and others who just haven't felt "right" about this vaccine. When I took my daughter in for her jr. high vaccinations I was asked if I wanted her to receive the Gardasil vaccination. I declined because I didn't know enough about it. The information I've been able to find on your site and others has confirmed my nagging feelings of concern regarding this vaccination. Thanks again!

I am impressed. Healthy scepticism, and exhorting ...

2009-04-17T09:22:00.000-04:00

I am impressed. Healthy scepticism, and exhorting people to look after their own health. After NZ's mengicoccal B fiasco you'd think we'd be more sceptical. Indiscriminate use of any vaccine and compulsory measures can be extremely harmful...

"HPV vaccine increases the incidence, according to the US FDA, of cervical cancer 44.7% in girls and women who already have HPV." (Although you might want to check that figure - it seems very high)

Ok, otherwise this vaccine seems *relatively* safe, but I'm not prepared to bet my daughter's life on it. Can I suggest though that if people do choose this -- or any other vaccination a little extra vitamin C seems to reduce the complications found with vaccines.

(Once bitten - totally shy)

Un-fortunately, yes the government is sponsoring t...

2009-03-11T15:22:00.000-04:00

Un-fortunately, yes the government is sponsoring the New Zealand Gardasil vaccination project. But when making your decision about receiving the vaccine you shouldn't be thinking about the money making claims you should be thinking about the necessity of this vaccine, the truth behind it, and most importantly the side affects. Just because its free doesn't mean its good.

I can't speak specifically for NZ, as we're in the...

2009-03-11T09:53:27.796-04:00

I can't speak specifically for NZ, as we're in the U.S... but when a vaccine is free to you, that doesn't mean that the drug company isn't still making money. Maybe the school district or the state government, etc. is paying for it, but trust me, Merck (or whoever) isn't just giving it away.

It's not all about the money, but yeah, they're still getting their money even if you're not the one paying it.

I'm living in New Zealand and all female high scho...

2009-03-11T05:30:00.000-04:00

I'm living in New Zealand and all female high school and uni students get the vaccination for free at the moment - we can give consent if we're 16 or over to have it done at school, otherwise parents have to take responsibility. So I dunno, it's hard for me to feel too much like it's all about the money. Still, some good points, I didn't know a lot of the things you mentioned :)

I'm a 18 year old college student and I have had t...

2009-02-24T04:24:00.000-05:00

I'm a 18 year old college student and I have had the first two of the shots and my little sister has also she is 17. She is doing fine but since I have had the shot I have lost movement and strength I dont know if this is related to the shot or not but I really wish I would have read the side effects before I had the shot. I was really iffy getting the shot anyway before I read on it but my Mom and my doctor said it was a good idea. I also think what they are trying to do is great. I'm just worried about the side effects that they havent seen in the groups. But as I was saying there is a lot of good in this shot. My sister's boyfriend has HPV and if it lowers her chance of getting cervical cancer I'm all for it. Thankyou for putting up the information it was really helpful in my search thank you so much.

I'm a mom with an almost 11 year old. We live in V...

2009-01-28T14:58:00.000-05:00

I'm a mom with an almost 11 year old. We live in VA and I have just been informed that if we DON'T get this "vaccine" for our daughter they will not allow her to enter the 6th grade. My husband and I are all for protecting our children from illness but we are really worried about getting this vaccine for our daughter. It has nothing to do with moral issues but more so what are the long term effects this drug could have on our daughter. With it having aluminum in it could she suffer damage, have children with disabilities or not be able to have a child at all. I think it is ridiculous to mandate this for girls. I wish there was some way to get the mandate over turned.

Hi Ladies,I bet it's ridiculous (or satisfying, no...

2009-01-18T15:01:00.000-05:00

Hi Ladies,

I bet it's ridiculous (or satisfying, not sure which) to still be getting comments on this so long after posting it.

I just wanted to thank you for bringing up this info and helping me research a little more. I, too, am suspicious of "Big Pharma" (and even my health care provider!)'s serious push of this vaccine. I went to the OB/GYN for the first time a few weeks ago (I'm a non-SA 21 year old.. it seemed like it was time to get over there) and was a little bit disgusted by the number of times my GYN said the word Gardasil. I felt like I had been railroaded, and not given any direct information. Even the stirrups had little Gardasil covers!

My undergraduate degree is in sociology, so being suspicious of social institutions and their motives is basically my job. Thanks again for helping me to find a little extra data in making my decision. I don't know what I'll do yet, but this has been helpful.

That tidbit on cervical cancer rate increase and o...

2008-12-24T16:52:00.000-05:00

That tidbit on cervical cancer rate increase and oral contraceptives got me researching (I am a molecular biology student) and you won't believe what I found...

"Our analysis suggests that risk of invasive squamous
cervical cancer and ISC for women who tested positive
for HPV DNA is increased three-fold if they have used
oral contraceptives for 5 years or longer."

You can read the scientific article at http://image.thelancet.com/extras/01art3030web.pdf. This risk is noted on the medication's package. Don't you think 3-fold is something worth putting in bold print?

What a wonderful range of opinions and facts. I'm ...

2008-12-24T16:34:00.000-05:00

What a wonderful range of opinions and facts. I'm a 23 year old who is having pre-cancerous cervical lesions removed next week. I wish I had been given the opportunity to receive this vaccine, but it is a very personal decision.

I CHOSE to have sex before marriage. I TRUSTED my boyfriend of 3 years. I HAVE a family history of cervical cancer. There are so many individual factors that are presented to women. We need to be responsible for our bodies and take small risks when large ones are already stacked up against us. Yes, the vaccine is pricey. The $5,000 bill for my procedure without any insurance will be as well.

If you are concerned about long term effects, by all means wait, but please check out what is in other substances as well, not just ones with charged up arguments. Many of you will put your daughters on the birth control pill (which interestingly enough increases your risk of developing cervical cancer)"just in case they make a mistake". What if the same mistake gives them HPV?

And to the woman who instructed others to "feel him up" to see if he has HPV: The strains which cause cervical cell changes do NOT present physical symptoms in men.

I wish the best for all of your cervices.

Why does everyone keep saying they don't need to g...

2008-11-30T14:51:00.000-05:00

Why does everyone keep saying they don't need to get the vaccine until they become sexually active and that you can only get HPV when you start having sex???? ITS NOT TRUE. Gardisil is useless because many people will actually have HPV through out their life. Right from childhood even, possibly from birth. Its not going to jump out and get you as soon as you start having sex. Your body is perfectly capable of ridding itself of this virus, its been doing it your whole life so why vaccinate now? Its all a big money scam.

you're totally right, so many people just rush ont...

2008-11-29T22:56:00.000-05:00

you're totally right, so many people just rush onto getting it without waiting to see if there are actually any more potential danger later on in their life that might be worse than taking the risk and not getting the shot. for me, i don't think i am going to be sexual active for a while as i am still 14, i think i am just going to wait until i get a little older. ~Thanks for the information, i didn't kno about merck's scandal before and thats something else to consider before getting the shot.

In reply to the comment above me, you look like yo...

2008-11-25T15:48:00.000-05:00

In reply to the comment above me, you look like you have been doing a little research and found out about men getting the vaccine, but if you really did your research you would know that there is actually no scientific proof the HPV is related to cancer at all they just assume that it is and there are many strains of HPV so are most likely to just catch another strain once you have been vaccinated. You cannot 'get rid' of HPV it is one of the most contagious and common viruses that exists. Perhaps you should find out what HPV really is before 'vaccinating' yourself against it.

I am currently getting my last shot in the series ...

2008-11-25T15:09:00.000-05:00

I am currently getting my last shot in the series for Gardasil. I have come across information that pertains to Gardasil. Gardasil has been tested in men and has worked and all it is waiting on is FDA approval. When men get vaccinated that will bring more light onto the situation. I was diagnosed with HPV last year and got it taken care of. I opted to get vaccinated so I can protect myself from the other strains of HPV. If there is a preventative measure to keep me from getting cervical cancer, I am going to take it and recommend that others get vaccinated. I am currently 27 years old. I was scared when I first heard about HPV, because I had no idea what it was.

Iv done a bit of research on Gardasil and mainly t...

2008-10-30T19:27:00.000-04:00

Iv done a bit of research on Gardasil and mainly the HPV virus and I was interested to know that HPV is in most animals (mammals, reptiles, birds) that it has been found in children and can be passed on from the mother through birth (c-section or not). Its an extremely contagious virus which usually the body just fights off itself. So as far as Gardasil goes why are they saying you need it as soon as you start having sex?? You most likely will already have it or have had it in your life. If you also look at the Gardasil trials data (which yes you can get its the raw scientific material over 400 pages worth) they found that those who had the virus before getting the injection actually had a raised chance of contracting cancer. So wouldn't you want to know if you had HPV before getting this vaccine? Why don't they tell the public this? But it the end I wouldn't even get the vaccine because there is actually know scientific proof HPV causes cancer, its just assumed that it is because it usually accompanies cancer. Maybe this is just because your immune system hasn't been able to fight it of cause your sick. There are over 100 types of known HPV and they are always discovering more. In the trials the strains of HPV your immunized against (only 4) where always replaced by other strains. So how do they not know that these strains might be worse? As cervical cancer takes 20-40 yrs to develop how do they know these strains aint worse, they have only been testing for 5 years! I could go on and on and on. JUST LOOK AT THE DATA YOURSELF.

I'm sorry, but anyone who gives this vaccine to th...

2008-10-10T15:55:00.000-04:00

I'm sorry, but anyone who gives this vaccine to their children without researching it first IS A BAD PARENT. I won't give my daughter the expensive, untest vaccine du jour just because the TV told me, and certainly not because some 23 year old on the Internet might think I'm a bad parent.

When you contract gential hpv you'll be wishing yo...

2008-09-18T13:42:00.000-04:00

When you contract gential hpv you'll be wishing you'd got the vaccine... don't be stupid; there are medical reports all over the internet about the gardasil trials, get the facts not some stupid blogger's opinion. Oh, and if you're a guy, and you want it, talk to your doctor; It can be done.

My doctor insisted i get it!and my mom agreed to.b...

2008-09-11T22:05:00.000-04:00

My doctor insisted i get it!
and my mom agreed to.
but then i found out
that i could faint, get a fever, be dizzy, DIE, and many more.. and that it is still being tested by scientist. I have an appointment for it tomorrow but now that ive read all this.. I DONT THINK SO lol.
Thanks for researching and writing this it made things alot clearer and made my decision real easy!
:)

I'm sorry but anyone who does not get their child ...

2008-09-03T21:59:00.000-04:00

I'm sorry but anyone who does not get their child this vaccine is just being a bad parent. This vaccine is about prevention, to help your child and to make sure they are protected against the number 1 cause of cervical cancer. This vaccine might nt protect against all HPV diseases but it protects against the ones that are most likely to cause high risk HPV infections that lead to cancer. It is always worth it to try and protect yourself and your children. I got diagnosed with cervial cancer caused by HPV about 3 months before the vaccine became available. I'm 23 years old, I have already had 2 surgeries, I go to the doctor twice a month and I am in constant pain. I will also probably never have children because of the effects of this disease. The type of HPV that caused my cancer would have been prevented by the gardasil vaccine. It just wasn't out in time to protect me. Parents who stand there saying that their children will never get the vaccine, shame on you. Even if you practice safe sex, it is possible to contract this disease andto ignore a vaccine that can prevent it is just plain ignorance.

Although I understand the risks involved, with hea...

2008-08-23T16:30:00.000-04:00

Although I understand the risks involved, with health care today and definitely in the future- these "risks" most likely will not happen. Both my mom and my sister had HPV. I do disagree with all of you that say that it is not a big deal/able to be cured easily. My sister has had 3 surgeries and abnormal pap smears for years. If she has to have the surgery again she will have to have a hysterectomy and will not be able to have children. My mother had problems with having children (a miscarriage and a pregnancy with tons of complications). Therefore, I believe we should do what we can to wipe out this cancer. I mean do you really think they had the resources and testing that we do now when they did polio vaccines?

My daughter received her first garasil shot in Dec...

2008-08-15T00:47:00.000-04:00

My daughter received her first garasil shot in December and other than some tingling in the arm at the shot injection site and a sore arm, she did fine. She had the second shot in February; she said it hurt worse and not long after that (about 2 or 3 wks) she started complaining of extreme pain in her legs that Motrin or Tylenol would not help. By the middle of March, she was passing out at school and was feeling very tired all the time. On our first trip to the EMR, they said she had Orthostatic Hypertension. She did everything she was supposed to do and nothing helped as far as giving her energy or keeping her from passing out. Second trip to the ER resulted in a hospital stay of a wk where it was determined that her B12 was very low and she was also experiencing extreme abdomen pain and chest pain. She saw a endocrinologist because they thought she might also have reactive hypoglycemia....negative. Then they thought she might be having mini-seizures so we saw a neurologist. Her heart was racing and her BP was dropping when it was not suppose to. She felt worse than if she had a very bad case of the flu all the time. Her skin was extrmely painful to the touch and she bruised easily. We were then sent to a cardiologist who determined that she needed to be put on a beta blocker to see if it would help her heart rate. He determined that she has Dysautonomia and sent us to a special center in another city for evaluation. So now it is one day at a time. She won't be leaving for college like all her other friends this week because she is still to sick to go. Before my 18 yr old daughter took Garasil, she was healthy, very active and on the go all the time. Now she spends most days in bed because she doesn't have the energy to do more than exist. I blame Garasil and I hope that someone somewhere gets the point across to all the other parents to NOT allow their daughters to take these horrible life changing shots that have not been tested and were produced by a company pushing to gain back some of the revenue they lost with the Vioxx escapade. Regardless of that, they TOOK my daughter from me and now we don't know if we will ever get her back again. I know one thing, when it became time for her third shot, I told the doctor "HELL NO!" and I am telling everyone who will listen what happened to us. No one can believe the change in my daughter. It is as if she is a shell of the person she used to be. But I guess we are one of the lucky ones.......atleast Garasil and Merck didn't KILL my daughter. Should I send them a thank you note?